FROM THE YEAR TWO-THOUSAND AND DIPLO, NEVER FORGET*
*I said that about a Deize Tigrona song I played on my radio show yesterday but since I basically decided “two-thousand and diplo” is a genre I had to put it into print. So yeah I’m sampling myself in a post about a sample WUUUUTTTTTTTTTT
“I think the last time I saw him, we were driving around and he played “More Than A Feeling” like 800 times. I was like, “You’re kidding me, you’re driving me crazy with this.” And he’s like, “This is the best song ever.””—Tamra Davis on Jean-Michel Basquiat. Throwback jam, I interviewed her in 2010 about Radiant Child, which is her doc on him. That’s on Netflix streaming, but mostly the reason I thought of/am posting this is because YO CB4 IS ALSO ON NETFLIX STREAMING AND I’M ABOUT TO GET DOWN WITH IT FOR THE 2,000TH TIME.
I came across the witch house ask you got and I was hoping if you could explain witch house to me. Someone told me to look it up because I have never herd of it and I'm a little confused. When I listen to some songs i'm not sure if they really are witch house or not. Which artist or even just a song is considered 100% witch house genre?
Okay, so witch house I think is basically an invented word-genre to describe the type of dark, druggy drum machine music made by bands like SALEM and CREEP, who are generally influenced by lo-fi dance, goth aesthetic, and in some cases the codeine syrup music of DJ Screw. Here is the article that made it a “thing,” it will do a lot of explaining for you.
It’s pretty wild though, historically genre names were invented for commercial purposes, like for charts and keeping radio segregated. As a music writer I understand genre names as a useful way to communicate a type of sound to the reader but more and more I feel like the more niche they go, the more you train music listeners to be less open-minded. But you probably don’t give a shit about that. I’m all about just liking whatever music you feel and screw everything else.
HA!! Just read your comment. If you were implying there was some sort of connection between minimal and witch house then, I'm sorry, I fear you've been reading too many P4K trigger words. Mnml tracks overlap each other, creating beautiful synergies like the combination of DNA with each beat, movement, and space being a vital part to the genetic makeup. Witch house is a genre built around an aesthetic and is hog-tied by restrictions...with minimal the possibilities are endless. But what do I know
NO HELL NO I meant actual house music, not witch house vs. house music. I meant actual minimal house music which I really despised (along with minimal techno) when it was super popular in like 2001-2004 or so or whenever I was writing for XLR8r (I AM OLD AND HAVE WRITTEN FOR ALMOST EVERY MUSIC MAGAZINE ON EARTH) but lately I’ve come around to some of that old shit. Like I don’t feel reflexively snarky when I hear old Michael Mayer anymore or whatever.
For the most part I agree- but I'd probably go one further and say witch house was a 'gimmick' (wingdings and goth aesthetic included), which explains why its lifespan never really lasted beyond the new year. Although at least it had its own sound unlike witch house 2.0- seapunk (I think seapunk is legit as an image but not as a music genre). I'm all for new ideas in music but I prefer it when the creation is natural/honest. Then again, it's 2011 and I should embrace the Internet's hot shit.
I feel you on that with seapunk as an image, tho feel a little skeptical of it maybe specifically because of witch house (and “rapegaze,” whose real story of originating as a troll-y joke on a private listserv of webnerds—so I hear—has to my knowledge not yet been told). I also am like, I fucking adore LIl Internet (he’s the first guest on my podcast with my dude when he gets back from €, stay chuned) but like he is the web’s foremost jokester troll and I totally thought that was his humorous response to the #hardstyle controversy of summer 2011 but maybe not? I will ask him. There are also now serious articles written about it so. Whatever, I love dolphins, let’s enjoy em while they last, amirite? #THECOVE
Wow, god, I don’t know. What does that even mean? I like Salem okay on tape and live to varying degrees, particularly that one SXSW show that was a disaster but when they had an anti-hypelady who was clearly nodding off and drinking a beer. It was terrible as music but great as performance art. I like some songs by CREEP, I really like GOTH and HOUSE MUSIC and you know, Peter Murphy might have been the first actual “witch house” artist (whatever that means) and he is awesome.
Beyond that, I am incredibly annoyed by groups that exclusively use wingdings for their band names because it seems willfully pretentious and annoying and sorry, I like the internet and information and googling and I’m not trying to NOT find you on google so if you don’t want me to then F U. And also I listen to a lot of actual shaman music from various places in South America so I feel like, don’t pull that colonialist “so mystical” crap with me unless you’re going full cyber punk or doing some sort of specific statement. That said, I’m pretty sure there are wingding bands whose music I have enjoyed quite a lot but I COULDNT TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE BECAUSE OF THEIR WINGDING NAMES.
I really like Holy Other a lot, is that witch house? Are certain Sepalcure songs witch house? I don’t even know what witch house is. I like goth and house both separately and together and generally I’m annoyed by people who seem like they are trying really really hard to be obscure. Like, dog, not everyone can be the god Genesis P-Orridge, and that is okay. Just make good music. Or make not-good music that is at least interesting.
I went to WIM and Nicki was channeling Darryl Hannah in Splash. The dress had a fishtail thing happening and the hair was ass length..speaking of Asses I have never been so impressed by another womans ass. It was like the heaviest part of a teardrop perfectly suspended in time.
"THE HEAVIEST PART OF A TEARDROP PERFECTLY SUSPENDED IN TIME"
ALSO YOU ARE THE BEST! Ben was just like “uh… she was wearing black and white?” Sigh.
“I am now a forehead model and have been getting special privileges at all the best restaurants.”—Lionel Boyce just published his last column for the LA Weekly, which makes me very, very sad. It’s also one of his funniest, and shouts me out (“Julianne Sheppard” aka “J-Rock”). You should read it because it is hilarious, and because he is about to be all up in your TV as your favorite new Adult Swim dude and it’s only a matter of time before he’s cast in an Apatow film or some shit.
“The Mulleavy sisters have always exuded an essence of etsy, but their craft store Van Gogh sunflower and starry night motif and bizarre Barney the dinosaur/Sleeping Beauty color regression was too much information. Some infantile infatuations should probably be kept private. The boxy cuts and conversely, flowy, semi-sheer pieces packed no potency, a difficult season to remember off the style.com stream. Considering the atmospheric settings and innovative collections of seasons past it was a generous disappointment, a simultaneous journey to both antique store geriatrics and daycare juvenalia.”—This is the first honest thing I have ever read about Rodarte, which blows, but is inexplicably the favorite fashion label of Anna Wintour, Kanye West and some other people. “An essence of etsy!” HAHA.
me: people all “blixa bargeld isn’t goth, he was in german home depot commercials” as if there was something gother than a german home depot Colin: Victoria: “is this part of some previous conversation?” me: the conversation with my 16 year old goth self being permanently conducted in my…
I LOVE YOU. ALSO, I got an udjat tattooed on my leg when I was 17. I tell people it’s because I wanted to be an Egyptologist when I was younger (I totally did) but in reality I actually got it because of Vision Thing. YES I HAVE WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A FUCKING SISTERS OF MERCY TATTOO, AND WHAT
I totally didn’t! No money for it and my mom wasn’t assimilated enough (she’s Mexican), I guess, to really know how to help me on that end… with scholarships or whatever… plus I hated school (they called me a “creative underachiever” ha) and wanted to go do my own thing. I just tried to self-educate, read a ton of books, live life and write as much as possible. I wouldn’t recommend not going to everyone, but it is possible to not go and still do okay.
Personally i like your OF experience pics. Especially your syd pic i thought it was excellent. Did you get any performance recorded or was it too hectic? Cuz at my show it was crazy lol
Thanks! No performance pics, the Blackberry video experience is even worse than the camera, and I stupidly forgot my flipcam at home. I’ll post more pics as I find em though. They all pretty much suck ballzini, FYI